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Stumbled across a very good article on Greta Christina's Blog.
Excerpt:
"I want to talk about atheists and anger. This has been a hard piece to write, and it may be a hard one to
read. I'm not going to be as polite and good-tempered as I usually am
in this blog; this piece is about anger, and for once I'm going to
fucking well let myself be angry. But I think it's important. One of the most common criticisms lobbed
at the newly-vocal atheist community is, "Why do you have to be so
angry?" So I want to talk about:
1. Why atheists are angry;
2. Why our anger is valid, valuable, and necessary;
And 3. Why it's completely fucked-up to try to take our anger away from us."
....
"I'm angry that atheist soldiers -- in the U.S. armed forces -- have had prayer ceremonies pressured on them and atheist meetings broken up by Christian superior officers, in direct violation of the First Amendment."
....
"I'm angry that women are dying of AIDS in Africa and South America
because the Catholic Church has convinced them that using condoms makes
baby Jesus cry."
....
"I'm angry about what happened to Galileo. Still. And I'm angry that it took the Catholic Church until 1992 to apologize for it."
....
"I'm angry -- enraged -- at the priests who molest children and tell
them it's God's will. I'm enraged at the Catholic Church that
consciously, deliberately, repeatedly, for years, acted to protect
priests who molested children, and consciously and deliberately acted
to keep it a secret, placing the Church's reputation as a higher
priority than, for fuck's sake, children not being molested. And I'm
enraged that the Church is now trying to argue, in court, that
protecting child-molesting priests from prosecution, and shuffling
those priests from diocese to diocese so they can molest kids in a
whole new community that doesn't yet suspect them, is a Constitutionally protected form of free religious expression."
Rad the full article here.
Source: http://gretachristina.typepad.com
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I know it looks long, but it is a good read. Especially if you like The Onion's humor..
Brings Us Back to Reality
This speech was presented at the 2008 National FFRF Convention
in Chicago on Oct. 12, 2008. This is the script–minus a PowerPoint
presentation of Scott’s favorite irreverent Onion headlines and stories.
By Scott Dikkers
"I’d like to start out, if I may, with a few insults. I’d also like to
show you some articles from The Onion, the newspaper that I founded and
then edited for 15 of the past 20 years. Then, I’ll tie it all together
with a heartwarming defense of rational thinking.
So, I saw this U. of Minn. survey that came out a while back. Perhaps
you saw it as well. It asked Americans, who do you trust? And they
broke it down into categories: Do you trust a Christian? Most said yes.
In fact, Christians were at the top of the list. Do you trust a black
person? A Muslim? A homosexual? etc.
The
group that came out at the very bottom of the list–and I’m talking
about below terrorists, below sexual predators, below the guy who skins
babies alive and wears the skin as a mask and then dances in the
moonlight while gargling the blood of his infant victims–after that
guy, was atheists.
(And when I say “atheists,” I mean atheists, agnostics,
freethinkers of every stripe, because the culture as a whole thinks of
us as the same.)
We are the single-most reviled group of people in the country. Maybe the world. By far.
What we have to ask ourselves is, what can we learn from the terrorists
and the serial killers? Well, for starters we need to find out who does
their PR. We’ve got to ask the racists and the rapists, what’s your
secret? Child molesters, how did you get to be America’s sweetheart?
Show us how it’s done. Maybe we could move up a notch or two if you’d
share with us some of your winning people skills.
First of all it’s the name. Atheist. It’s a cold and prickly word, like
Recidivist. Rapist. Terrorist. Anal cyst. It’s a terrible word.
Agnostic is no better. It sounds clinical. It’s two letters off from
diagnostic. “I’m sorry to have to tell you, Mr. Johnson, we got the
results back from your agnostic, and we’re going to have to amputate
your testicles.”
Christian. Christian–it flows off the tongue like a crisp autumn
breeze. Christian. It sounds like a guitar being strummed in the grass
under a sycamore tree.
The words we use are important. The freethinking community–a better
term than atheist–is not doing well in the pr department. People still
call us atheists. They’re still scared of us. We’re losing the war of
public opinion, and we’re losing it badly. On every front. All I can
say to that is I’m so glad that we’re an invisible minority.
Atheists are good people. Historically, we’re an important check on
religious excess. The Scientific Revolution and the Enlightenment
brought us out of the Dark Ages. The secular nation of America saved us
from religious tyranny and the divine right of kings.
Yet people say they would never vote for an atheist or an agnostic for
president. They’d sooner vote for Jeffrey Dahmer, evidently. What they
don’t realize is that they have in the past–they just didn’t realize
it. Thomas Jefferson was an agnostic. Abraham Lincoln was an agnostic.
But I guess to get any PR benefit we have to wait until a good president is revealed to be an atheist or agnostic.
It’s not fair the way atheists and agnostics are treated.
Atheists are blamed for some of the greatest genocides of the 20th
century. Hitler, Stalin, Mao. People think that these lunatics were
simply fulfilling the dictates of the moral vacuum of atheism. These
guys are an albatross around my neck every time I get talking to a
religious person. Pointing out how many millions have been killed by
religious extremists usually devolves into an argument where we’re just
adding up numbers of dead in columns, and that’s not productive. Can’t
reasonable people simply agree that human beings in the grip of any
ideology can be real jerks? Especially if they are bat-shit insane?
We can do better. We can turn the tide of public opinion that runs so
disproportionately against us. First, we need a mascot–a puppet, or
some kind of lovable character. Christians have the character of God.
He’s got a fuzzy white beard. He’s cuddly. He loves everybody. He’s
like your grandpa. He’s like Santa Claus.
Now, he admits he is jealous and vengeful, and he has slaughtered
entire cities full of people, wiped out virtually everyone on the
planet in a great flood. In fact he set up his own son to be viciously
beaten and tortured and killed–but he did it for us. So we should say
thank you for that, I guess. Whatever the case, Americans love him. We
need a lovable, old, child-killing curmudgeon mascot. And let’s make
him a cartoon character because everybody loves cartoons.
What else can we do? I was watching Fox News the other day and came up
with another idea. (I hate Fox News because they’re better at writing
funny news than I am.)
I was watching Fox News, and some guy came on to promote a book that
says evolution is false and creationism is true. He was an older guy,
but healthy looking, wearing a suit. Well groomed. I was thinking, he
probably lives a pretty modern lifestyle even though his beliefs are
200 years old.
Reasonable people know evolution is a scientific fact. We’ve mapped the
genomes of several species. Chimpanzees share 96% of their DNA with
humans. And the way you get DNA is from sexual reproduction. Ergo,
chimpanzees and humans have a common ancestor. And that’s just the
genetic science. It’s verified by every other science that we know.
For evolution to be false, some of the most basic facts of nature that
we know to be true would have to be wrong. If you’re going to reject
evolution, a lot of well-established science has to be thrown out the
window along with it: Chemistry, genetic science, physics.
So I thought, we should, as a society, bar anyone who doesn’t accept
evolution from partaking of any technological advance derived from the
science that makes evolution true. No access to modern medicine, no
access to basic biological, chemical products or knowledge. You want to
heat up your food before you eat it? Sorry. You’re eating your meat raw
because you don’t believe in germs. And forget antibiotics. You’re on
your own. You’re welcome to pray for a better life, but you can’t use
science. That’s cheating because you don’t believe in science. If
people want to live in the 17th century, let them.
If we adopted this simple rule, this author on Fox News would come on
dressed in a dirty burlap sack, with rotting teeth and matted hair,
barking at the hosts like a dumb animal. And that at least would make
sense, given his beliefs.
An idea like this would encourage people to appreciate all the good
things that science and empirical evidence have brought to the world.
It would give our PR effort a needed boost.
It would also incentivize more people to accept reality. The
alternative is fantasy. People now have the option to just believe
whatever they want–just make something up–it doesn’t matter if it’s not
substantiated. And that hurts the rest of us.
To me, as a writer, what’s worse is that most people don’t even make up
a fantasy for themselves. They actually take something someone else
made up and believe that
as absolute truth. I really don’t understand that. If you’re going to
make up a reality out of whole cloth, at least be original. Come up
with your own fantasy scenario. Something new. Catholicism, Mormonism,
Islam, Hinduism, Scientology–these are all just somebody else’s made-up
ideas. You can’t just take someone else’s idea and accept it wholesale
as your cherished personal belief. That’s like stealing someone else’s
Halloween costume idea and showing up at the same party.
Let me take a moment now to tell you a little bit about the reality
that I invented–for fun. I don’t really believe it. It’s a powerful
newspaper empire. Our flagship publication is called The Onion. It’s
the leader in news and information without any real competitor in any
known medium. Through the centuries The Onion has covered all the major
news events that have shaped our world.
1910s: Sears, Roebuck Plead ‘Not Guilty’ To Pornography Charges.
1920s: Scopes Monkey Trial Raises Troubling Question: Is Science Being Taught In Our Schools?
1930s: New President Assures Nation, ‘The Only Thing We Have To Fear Is A Crippling, Decade-Long Depression’
1940s: War Rationing Board Restricts Nylon Use To Armed Forces, J. Edgar Hoover Only
1950s: Pentagon Develops A-Bomb-Resistant Desk
1960s: Holy Shit; Man Walks On Fucking Moon
1990s: Drugs Win Drug War
Today: ONN Clip: Take Your Daughter To War Day
See, atheists and agnostics aren’t scary. Listen to their laughter!
It’s a joyous sound, like the laughter of innocent children. You can
trust us!
Furthermore, I want to say to the world, you need us. As I hope I’ve
demonstrated here, atheists are fun. We’re fun to be with. We like
playing make believe as much as the next guy, but we know the
difference between fantasy and reality. And our crucial role in society
is to remind everyone else of the cold hard facts.
We live in an age now that could easily turn into another dark ages.
It’s a time when irrational beliefs that run counter to established
science are accepted not just by a large percentage of the population
but also by our elected leaders.
The religious like to say they’re “saved.” But after eight years of
their pick for president, it’s the rest of us who need to be saved.
And the people who voted for this leadership are ready to do it again,
because they are ideologues, who are incapable of learning–they reject
any factual information that contradicts their beliefs.
Who’s going to save the religious from their demonstrably terrible
choice in elected leaders? Who’s going to save us all from the mistakes
those leaders inevitably make when they base their decisions not on
empirical facts but on made-up information, make-believe intelligence?
Who’s going to save us all from living in a fantasyland and bring us
back to reality? We are."
Thoughts?
Source: http://www.ffrf.org/fttoday/2008/nov/dikkers.php
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Hearing and reading this kind of stuff breaks my heart and makes me sick and angry at the same time...
April 16, 2009
"Deluded" French Muslim starves, beats his eight children
Motivation? Making them "better Muslims." "'Deluded' French Muslim charged with starving children," from the Telegraph, April 15:
A
delusional French father has been charged with starving and beating his
eight children in the belief that it would make them good Muslims.
Police were alerted after a neighbour spotted one of the children, a
boy of 13 who weighed just 70lbs, foraging in bins for food in the
Mediterranean town of Banyuls-sur-Mer.
"The teenager was painfully thin, shivering, with bloody marks on
his face, bare feet and sores. He said he had been beaten for stealing
a handful of sugar," said local prosecutor Jean-Pierre Dreno.
Searching the family apartment on Saturday police found seven other
children, aged seven to 17, in a state of hunger and neglect, including
two girls, aged 13 and 15, who each weighed just 22kg.
The boy and two sisters have been taken to hospital and the other
siblings taken into care, while their parents have been detained on
charges of depriving their children of food, and physical abuse.
The father, a market worker of Moroccan origin, and his wife, an
east European Muslim convert, told police they sought to raise their
family in strict obedience to Islam, which they said included going
without food.
There were no food supplies in the flat and the eldest girls had
been taken out of class because of a French law banning headscarfs in
public schools.
"The parents explained that they practised their religion scrupulously, and with a very strict diet," said the prosecutor.
The 49-year-old father told investigators he had beaten his son to cure him "because he was possessed by lies."
"We are dealing with a delusional person, this is a cult-like
situation," Dreno said. "This went way beyond any kind of religious
practice, however rigorous."
Commenting on the case, the Paris Mosque said the father was clearly
deluded in his interpretation of Islam, stressing that even during the
fasting month of Ramadan, children are exempt, along with pregnant
women and the elderly.
Posted by Raymond at April 16, 2009 7:40 AM
Source: http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/025701.php
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This should make you guys laugh.. Make sure to check Sam's blog entry out after reading this article.
Meet Sam. Sam just wrote an entertaining display of his stupidity for some paper in Nebraska. It's full of real gems like:
"These folks tells their kids that their Grandpa was a monkey"
"These alledged atheists claim to know all"
"scientists who claim to have proof that the universe is billions of years old"
"Look at Bill Marr (sic)"
"The Anti-God folks know God exist, and it irks them. They want to be god."
Yeah, you can have a field day there, but Sam ended with some questions so I thought I'd give some answers to them.
"Why are all these so-called atheists harsh regarding Jesus Christ?"
• Questionable evidence for his existence for starters
•
Allegedly preached some silly things like sell all your shit and give
it away since the end is near and how to correctly beat your slaves
• The divinity part is fanciful to be kind, and the story had been done before
But really the number one reason is...
• So-called Christians justifying their crap in his name.
"Why do you never hear these fools curse Muhammad (sic) or Buddha or Gandhi?"
First,
there's a little confusion here. Jesus is allegedly a deity, and those
others are not. Also, there's actually evidence for the existence of
Mohammed and Gandhi.
• Now I can't think of any reason why
someone would want to curse Buddha. If someone can, please leave a
comment but I can't think of anything and more importantly, I can't
think of anyone doing anything terrible to themselves or others because
they think it's the will of Buddha. Again, if someone has something,
let me know.
• Mohammed was a child molester among other things, and
Islam is full of nasty shit which should be done to nonbelievers, but
so does Christianity. The difference is Christians sort of outgrew most
of that, but Muslims are still in their adolescence, so we'll see how
they mature.
• Gandhi? Well there are some unflattering claims about
him too. Curse him? I don't see why, although Hinduism is quite silly
and merely a manufactured religion by early Iranians to control the
people in the land they conquered. That caste system really worked, and
how interesting that the best people just happened to be those who
looked like the conquerers! What are the odds?
But to get at the
heart of what I think Sammy is getting at is why is non-religious ire
focused on Christianity? Well it certainly is in the US. Not so much in
Europe though. Why? Because the Europeans are dealing with Muslim
shenanigans on a daily basis. Here in the US, the only perpetrators of
shenanigans are Christians so far. Yes, yes, don't remind me of 9/11, I
remember (and lest I forget, W has reminded us a-plenty this past
week), but we don't have to deal with them on a daily basis. It's not
that they're better. Far from it. It's just that if you're in a room
with two assholes and one smacks you once in awhile and the other
smacks you all the time, who are you going to focus your attention on?
It's really that simple, Sammy.
"These anti-God people know, INSIDE, Who is real and who is not real."
Well
I deduct points for the "anti-god" label, but yeah, it's pretty clear
what's real and what's not. Too bad you're incapable of telling the
difference.
Thank You PhillyChief
Source: http://youmademesayit.blogspot.com/2009/01/you-need-big-hat-for-all-this-stupid.html
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